BC2020 On Prem and VPN

  • BC2020 On Prem and VPN

    Posted by Unknown Member on August 24, 2020 at 4:14 pm
    • Mark Anderson

      Member

      August 24, 2020 at 4:14 PM

      Hi All

      We’re testing BC2020 wave 1 (v16) on-prem

      Now that we have no more RTC, I’m curious what the best practice is WRT to working remotely. Previously, we would connect via VPN and then connect to an RDS server to run the RTC (I know it’s also possible to deploy the RTC as a RemoteApp),

      Wondered what best option is now. The web-client seems way less efficient (I’m sure it will improve), but I foresee us using “Open in Excel” and “Edit in Excel” a lot more.Ā 

      Anyone got any suggestions on best client setup for remote working:

      1. VPN and RDC to RDC server and run Edge and Excel there
      2. VPN and run everything across VPN connection
      3. Publish Edge as a RemoteApp?
      4. Other

      Thanks

      Mark

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      Mark Anderson
      Director of ERP Systems
      Clesen Wholesale
      Evanston, IL
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    • Ron Ketterling

      Member

      August 25, 2020 at 7:38 AM

      VPN. I have used 2017, 2018 and BC16 over VPN without delay from home.
      Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device

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    • David Stephenson

      Member

      August 25, 2020 at 9:32 AM


      We’ve done both in our NAV 2016 environment. VPNĀ ?or Remote App. Both seem to work equally well.
      We even had one of our remote users connect to the VPN and then use the Web Client because they thought it was faster than the RTC.

      I know this is a bit off-topic, but have you considered setting up a Remote Desktop Gateway with an SSL Certificate so your end-users can securely connect to the RDC without needing to connect to the VPN first?
      If you did that, then you could publish a web browser as a remote app and then your end-users could securely run it on their computers almost “natively”.

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      David Stephenson
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      Mity Inc.
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    • Mark Anderson

      Member

      August 25, 2020 at 12:00 PM

      Thanks David

      Remote Desktop Gateway with an SSL Certificate was one of the things I was planning to investigate with our MSP.

      I just spoke to our partner and they said perfectly fine to run web client without VPN or RDS. They are configuring SSL and 2FA right now, so I’ll report back

      Thanks

      Mark

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      Mark Anderson
      Director of ERP Systems
      Clesen Wholesale
      Evanston, IL
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    • Robert Jolliffe

      Member

      August 26, 2020 at 9:58 AM

      Hi Mark,

      Glad to hear you came to that conclusion.

      I was going to say – there is no need at all for an RDC or Terminal Server to run a BC Modern Client.Ā  Your users should have Excel, Word and Outlook locally if you are using those apps (most O365 accounts allow multiple installs per user).Ā  You can optionally use a VPN to restrict who can access the web site. All O/S today have a web client, and you just need to point at the URL and away you go.Ā  They can use a MAC, Chromebook, PC, Laptop, Tablet etc…Ā  Whatever they are most comfortable with.

      if you are hosting on-prem (sounds like you are) then you may want to set your firewall so that users at specific IP addresses can access the site – but if people working from home don’t have static IP then it can be a bit of a problem (or they VPN).

      -Rob

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      Robert Jolliffe B.A.Sc, MCSE, MCS – NAV Manufacturing Expert
      President
      Sabre Limited
      Cambridge
      robert@sabrelimited.com
      http://www.sabrelimited.com
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    • Mark Anderson

      Member

      August 26, 2020 at 6:15 PM

      Thanks Rob

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      Mark Anderson
      Director of ERP Systems
      Clesen Wholesale
      Evanston, IL
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    • Benji Jasik

      Member

      August 28, 2020 at 1:19 PM

      see if https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/active-directory/manage-apps/application-proxy could meet your needs

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      Benji Jasik
      Generate Capital
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    • Mark Anderson

      Member

      August 28, 2020 at 2:08 PM

      Thanks Benji

       

      Will read up on that. Do you use it?

       

       

       

      Mark Anderson | Director of ERP Systems

       

      Mobile 312.576.4332 | Direct 847.448.4202

       

       

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    • Benji Jasik

      Member

      August 28, 2020 at 2:54 PM

      we are trying to get off our VPN and using Azure Bastion for RDP and SSH and application proxy for business central.Ā  Not done yet but in progress

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      Benji Jasik
      Generate Capital
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    • Kris Ruyeras

      Member

      August 28, 2020 at 5:32 PM

      This depends on your security requirements. I’ve worked with clients where they require a VPN to access the BC Web Client even with SSL certs. Other options that are starting to be very common and a must have is 2FA or MFA.
      So anyone who navigates to https://BC.company.com and it would prompt a login plus 2FA/MFA using Duo or which ever option you take.
      This also depends on VPN configurations. Sometimes VPN configuration routes your internet traffic to go through the tunnel or not which can cause performance/speed issues, etc.
      Again, depends on your security and process requirements.?

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      Kristoffer Ruyeras
      VP of Operations
      Tigunia
      Seattle, WA
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    • Mark Anderson

      Member

      August 28, 2020 at 5:36 PM

      Thanks Kris

      We implemented 2FA this year and wouldn’t consider anything outside VPN without 2FA

      Best

      mark

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      Mark Anderson
      Director of ERP Systems
      Clesen Wholesale
      Evanston, IL
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