Expected Receipt Date Counting as Inventory

  • Expected Receipt Date Counting as Inventory

    Posted by DSC Communities on September 19, 2018 at 5:17 pm
    • Joshua McGee

      Member

      September 19, 2018 at 5:17 PM

      We’ve ran into this problem twice now. If the purchase order’s expected receipt date is today or before, Nav seems to beĀ counting this inventory as being available. The problem is, these items haven’t arrived. This means that the available to promise says they are here and the planning worksheet thinks they have arrived. Before we customize this, I wanted to see if anyone has a native way to handle this.

      If not, we plan to copy Expected Receipt Date to Promised Receipt Date. Then we will push the expected receipt date out if they haven’t been received by that date.

      Running Nav 2013

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      Joshua McGee
      Information Systems Manager
      Cover-Pools, Inc
      West Valley City UT
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    • Brian Kooshian

      Member

      September 20, 2018 at 7:12 AM

      We have had the exact same problem and it has caused us to have to air freight parts in from Europe as a result. I don’t have any solutions other than what you suggested, but in my opinion, this is a serious deficiency of NAV. For planning purposes, late PO’s should be automatically flagged or removed from consideration. Hopefully,Ā there is a way to fix this in later versions of NAV…?

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      Brian Kooshian
      OMT Veyhl
      Holland MI
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    • Andrew Good

      Member

      September 20, 2018 at 7:15 AM

      Your approach makes sense. You need to be aware of how NAV handles (& recalculates) dates on the Purchase Line, have a close look at the link below. You need to test your approach in a testing company. POs need to be actively managed and updated, so NAV knows when to consider the inventory as available. As you have pointed out it is using the Expected Receipt Date does that.

      Date Calculation for Purchases – Dynamics NAV

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      Date Calculation for Purchases – Dynamics NAV
      The program automatically calculates the date on which you must order an item to have it in inventory on a certain date. This is the date on which you can expect items ordered on a particular date to be available for picking.
      View this on Microsoft >

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      Andrew Good
      President
      Liberty Grove Software
      Oakbrook Terrace IL
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    • David Wiser

      Member

      September 20, 2018 at 11:43 AM

      As Andrew stated, this issue requires constant vigilance in maintaining PO dates.Ā  Unfortunately, NAV is doing exactly what you are telling it to do.Ā  If the PO says an item will arrive today, NAV will plan on it being here and available.Ā  Moving dates around can be time consuming.Ā  I have seen some companies remove the expected receipts from the availability calculation.Ā  This would require a developer to change and would impact all items.Ā  Just one way to go.

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      David Wiser
      Project Manager/Solution Architect
      Beck Consulting
      Kent WA
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    • Curt Buethe

      Member

      September 20, 2018 at 5:09 PM

      I used to work at FlexFleet in SLC and now I am in Boulder, CO.
      However you use the dates in NAV it all goes down to keeping the Expected Receipt Date as accurate as possible.  If your tolerance is tight where the Available Quantity/Expected Quantity needs to leave you time to actually package, route, or whatever then the date may need to be the following day.
      Example:
      Physical Receipt 9/20/18
      Queued for Put Away – potential delay 4 hours average
      You now have a 50% or less probability that the product will have all processing done along with physical Put-Away before you close.
      Add to the a Pick process that may queue up Picks for the afternoon at 12 noon and if not fully received and placed in its final bin may not show up as Available to Pick.
      When establishing an anticipated Expected Receipt Date it needs to consider all time requirements to have it arrive in inventory as available.
      Possible simple solution always allow a day or 2 for the product to be placed into inventory as Available to Pick.
      For us at Exxel Outdoors we have 5 month lead times and occasionally difficulties due to imports.  We typically plan for a 2 – 4 week Safety Stock adder to inventory to allow for the changes to Lead Time allowing us to maintain stock levels while we wait for the next PO.  As far as Expected Receipt Date we get info from our Freight Forwarder as to the expected arrival time at our warehouse and then add a couple of days.  If we are lucky and it arrives early we beat expectations.
      Good luck,
      Curt Buethe
      NAV Administrator Exxel Outdoors
      Past Financial Controller
      Past IT Director
      20 year NAV Developer and Systems Analyst

      ——Original Message——

      We’ve ran into this problem twice now. If the purchase order’s expected receipt date is today or before, Nav seems to beĀ counting this inventory as being available. The problem is, these items haven’t arrived. This means that the available to promise says they are here and the planning worksheet thinks they have arrived. Before we customize this, I wanted to see if anyone has a native way to handle this.

      If not, we plan to copy Expected Receipt Date to Promised Receipt Date. Then we will push the expected receipt date out if they haven’t been received by that date.

      Running Nav 2013

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      Joshua McGee
      Information Systems Manager
      Cover-Pools, Inc
      West Valley City UT
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    • Frances Donnelly

      Member

      September 21, 2018 at 1:10 PM

      As Curt points out the human intelligence and reaction to the data is what is needed for successful material planning and optimization.Ā  Software can only model outcomes based on the rules provided and users need to develop their internal methods to enable best results from those rulesĀ  An idea like ignoring ‘late purchase orders’ is not really viable because it would immediately set off alarm bells and have people chasing crisis that are more frequent because any delay, even an agreed delay, could make it look like there was a pending stock out.

      Enforcing discipline so that vendors notify in advance of late shipments and staff update records accordingly is a more helpful and reliable response.Ā  So is tracking vendor performance so that if your team has to proactively reach out for confirmation they are doing so with those vendors most likely to not meet ship dates.Ā  Tracking such performance also allows your team to objectively determine when alternate or new vendors are called for.

      Material planning software a la MRP has no effective way to weight the accuracy of a system supplied performance date but a well conceived and managed vendor qualification process can support your buyers and planners in understanding where there may be supply chain weaknesses that they need to monitor by exception.

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      Frances Donnelly
      Director of Sales & Product Development
      Horizons International
      Julian CA
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    • Ben Baxter

      Member

      September 24, 2018 at 8:25 AM

      I agree withĀ Frances and others who have responded.Ā  This is not a system issue as much as a people issue.Ā  Rather than program the system to manipulate dates (scary scenario), empower your people with information.Ā  Create an activity queue of POs expected to be received in the next 7 days.Ā  This gives them an actionable list of POs to follow-up on.Ā  If they haven’t received an ASN on any of those POs, they need to be calling the Vendor and getting an update.

      Create a second activity queue for POs that are at or past their Expected Receipt Date.Ā  These are the Red Flag POs where your Vendors should be dinged for not delivering on time.Ā  Track the metrics in the system to give you good Vendor Performance KPIs.Ā  This is also something that needs to feed information to other aspects of the system.Ā  Does scheduling need notified of the late material?Ā  Does sales need to update their customer with a potential delay in delivery?

      The system using a date isn’t the issue, the date not being accurate to reality is the issue.Ā  If the Vendor says the product is delayed, then update the Expected Receipt Date.Ā  Keep in mind the system will react to the change as well and may suggest another emergency order to fix the delay.Ā Ā 

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      Ben Baxter
      Consultant
      Accent Software, Inc.
      Carmel IN
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    • John Grant

      Member

      September 25, 2018 at 9:30 AM

      Joshua – For ‘A’ Items that you need to be ‘in-house’ sooner than the Expected Receipt Date NAV does allow you to plan with buffer time. Takes the calculated Due Date and gives you a few days of buffer time. Couple of setups to consider:

      • Safety Lead Time on the item – when the PO goes to the vendor use the Requested Receipt Date for your vendor that is calculated in the Requisition or Planning Worksheet for the vendor (not the expected receipt date which shifts to mean when the inventory is available to use not when received). Safety lead time on the item is often used if the item must pass internal QA – item is planned to be received a few days before consumed. Note the expected receipt date on the PO remains the same which is still in sync with planning to keep the noise in the planning worksheets at a minimum.

      • On the Bill of Material component for Production and Assembly Orders is at field called Lead-Time-Offset. You can use this field to have the due date for the component be planned a few days before the start date as an example with no need to use safety stock on the item. Planning will use the new Due Date from the component. Potentially more maintenance is required for each BOM but this does plan getting items in-house sooner and provides a buffer if items do not arrive exactly on time – consider using for those ‘A’ items.

      • Lastly use the Purchase Order Status Report and run by Requested Receipt Date to manage these items that cannot be late. Consider for at Least for ‘A’ items that if they are not delivered on time will cause production and planner headaches

      Best Regards
      John

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      John Grant
      Senior Application Consultant
      Innovia Consulting
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    • Robb Delprado

      Member

      September 26, 2018 at 8:42 PM

      ?There is a third-party add-on from SourceDay that provides a dashboard for viewing critical due dates and communicates with your vendors when shipment dates change.Ā  They presented at both my Houston and DFW Chapter meetings.Ā  If you need contact information, email me directly.

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      Robb Delprado
      Controller
      AllTerra Central
      Houston TX
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