Dynamics GP 2016 Web Client ISV Check Printing

  • Dynamics GP 2016 Web Client ISV Check Printing

    Posted by Ian Mcquade on February 2, 2017 at 10:05 am
    • Ian McQuade

      Member

      February 2, 2017 at 10:05 AM

      Greetings,
      Many of my clients use Mekorma MICR for check printing.
      Having spoken to them (Mekorma)  – at this time no plans exist for releasing a solution for the GP Web Client at this time.
      MaxQ – I spoke to them – their solution also will not work with the Dynamics GP Web Client.
      Does anyone know of any check printing solution that tightly ties in to Dynamics GP such as Mekorma that will work with the web client?

      What solutions has anyone used for check printing? Specifically one with the features of those from ISVs?

      Any and all input is truly gratefully appreciated.

      Cheers

      Ian

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      Ian McQuade
      Arctic IT
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    • Rob Klaproth

      Member

      February 2, 2017 at 12:23 PM

      You can bypass GP all together and use a product like Troy MICR which just has a print driver that takes care of the MICR printing using the standard GP check printing routines.  
      Troy also has its own security.     You will, however loose some
      Stuff like the workflow functions that Mekorma offers, thresholds, etc.  However as you know 2015 and 2016 have batch approval in payables and invoice approval so you could use those work flows so by the time it gets to Troy MICR it’s approved for payment anyway. 
      Best to review needed functions that Mekorma offers and see if Troy would be a good fit.   Otherwise your client is better off using a terminal server or maybe just have 1 or 2 workstations with the thick client installed to print checks using Mekorma. 
      They originally told everyone that when 2016 comes out they would do web client.  Guess not? 
      Sent from my iPhone

      ——Original Message——

      Greetings,
      Many of my clients use Mekorma MICR for check printing.
      Having spoken to them (Mekorma)  – at this time no plans exist for releasing a solution for the GP Web Client at this time.
      MaxQ – I spoke to them – their solution also will not work with the Dynamics GP Web Client.
      Does anyone know of any check printing solution that tightly ties in to Dynamics GP such as Mekorma that will work with the web client?

      What solutions has anyone used for check printing? Specifically one with the features of those from ISVs?

      Any and all input is truly gratefully appreciated.

      Cheers

      Ian

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      Ian McQuade
      Arctic IT
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    • Ian McQuade

      Member

      February 3, 2017 at 8:29 AM

      Yeah, the folks at Mekorma said that after MS decided to change from Silver Light to HTML5 they stopped developing….

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      Ian McQuade
      Arctic IT
      Parsipanny NJ
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    • Rob Klaproth

      Member

      February 3, 2017 at 11:19 AM

      That is not the information we received from Mekorma they said they were waiting for HTML 5 to develop it. They have known for over a year before GP 2016 came out that this was happening.  

      Sent from my iPhone

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      Yeah, the folks at Mekorma said that after MS decided to change from Silver Light to HTML5 they stopped developing….

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      Ian McQuade
      Arctic IT
      Parsipanny NJ
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    • David Morinello

      Member

      February 3, 2017 at 12:23 PM

      We sure would like to see this fixed for the HTML Web Client since we will be upgrading to GP 2016 R2 later this year.
      Mekorma, here is our vote!

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      David Morinello
      Senior Dynamics GP Systems Architect
      Ascend Learning, LLC
      Leawood KS
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    • Beat Bucher

      Member

      February 3, 2017 at 1:35 PM

      I’m not holding my breath…
      For now, until MS comes up with a more robust web client that offers the same functionality that it had with the Silver-light client, we’re not gong to switch user away from Terminal server, or Business Portal for the wast majority of them..
      HTML5 was supposed to be a better user experience.. IMHO it was just the opposite.

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      Beat Bucher
      Business Analyst, Dynamics GP MVP
      Ultra-Electronics Forensic Technology Inc.
      Montreal QC/Canada
      +1-514-489-4267
      @GP_Beat http://dyngpbeat.wordpress.com/
      Montreal QC GPUG Chapter Leader
      GP2013R2 / MR2012 CU14
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    • Rob Klaproth

      Member

      February 3, 2017 at 2:38 PM

      Sometimes that’s great, if it isn’t broke don’t fix it.. Just don’t tell your accounting folks about the auto post cash receipts in AR and the credit card payments in AP and they won’t know what they’re missing!  I’m not sure about BP functionality, but I can tell you that the web client is all about how you sell it to the user population.  Yes, you still need a terminal server, there is no way you can deploy GP in a 100% web client experience for the users.  So, I sell the web client as the “mobile version of GP”.  Just like apps on your phone, the apps do not do the same thing as the full fledged web site does when you browse it on a computer, there is dumbed down functionality.  Quite frankly, I think they did a great job giving users access to nearly every function in GP from a mobile application.     Now, if an accounting manager wants to leave their computer at work, and then when they get home they realize they forgot to post a batch of journal entries, they can just login to the VPN from their home computer and pull up the web client and post away, or even if they have VPN on their ipad while sitting on the couch watching TV and winding down they can login and check to see how their sales department did for the day.  🙂

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      I’m not holding my breath…
      For now, until MS comes up with a more robust web client that offers the same functionality that it had with the Silver-light client, we’re not gong to switch user away from Terminal server, or Business Portal for the wast majority of them..
      HTML5 was supposed to be a better user experience.. IMHO it was just the opposite.

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      Beat Bucher
      Business Analyst, Dynamics GP MVP
      Ultra-Electronics Forensic Technology Inc.
      Montreal QC/Canada
      +1-514-489-4267
      @GP_Beat http://dyngpbeat.wordpress.com/
      Montreal QC GPUG Chapter Leader
      GP2013R2 / MR2012 CU14
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    • Beat Bucher

      Member

      February 6, 2017 at 8:38 AM

      Rob,
      you’re right for most ‘new’ web users of GP.. don’t try to sell the web client to long time Business Portal users (or any other web based app for god sakes).. From a developper perspective, the HTML5 GP web client is probably the worst experience you can give an end-user.. it feels like Web 1.0… not quite 2.0

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      Beat Bucher
      Business Analyst, Dynamics GP MVP
      Ultra-Electronics Forensic Technology Inc.
      Montreal QC/Canada
      +1-514-489-4267
      @GP_Beat http://dyngpbeat.wordpress.com/
      Montreal QC GPUG Chapter Leader
      GP2013R2 / MR2012 CU14
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    • Rob Klaproth

      Member

      February 6, 2017 at 11:11 AM

      Beat,
      Have you logged in and played around with dynamics 365 yet? 
      I’m just curious what you’re comparing it to.  To me it seems like they are trying to move it in the same direction and give users a similar look for the Menus to make the transition more familiar.  Unfortunately the UI itself they have not transitioned off the old dexterity windows from GP so what they are doing it keeping that part of GP so that users don’t have to learn a new product. 
      I also think they did that to require less effort from developers who have customized GP heavily over the years so that they can try to get their web version working easier.  The problem with this approach is that they are holding GP back from being the true product it could become if they allowed the web client to be a true web product with things like Ajax under the covers. I love Ajax stuff like on Coupa P2P (a purchasing and expense platform)  where you start typing and it shows all the suggested windows in the setup screen that match your search without having to click a button.   
      When you compare it to those type of apps I agree with you.  The difference, however, is that those apps started in the cloud as Web 1.0 apps and are now Web 2.0. GP started as a non web based app back in the DOS days and unfortunately Microsoft has decided to make upgrades less painful for the users and keep all of your legacy GP stuff working.  Until they let go of the legacy mentality I believe the web client will never truly be what it potentially could be. 
      On the other hand holding on to business portal is a road I wouldn’t go down for too long.  It’s like trying to keep an old car running but eventually you will run out of mechanics who know how to fix it or have parts available for it.  Maybe a 3rd party ISV product would be a better fit to replace your business portal? 
      Sent from my iPhone

      ——Original Message——

      Rob,
      you’re right for most ‘new’ web users of GP.. don’t try to sell the web client to long time Business Portal users (or any other web based app for god sakes).. From a developper perspective, the HTML5 GP web client is probably the worst experience you can give an end-user.. it feels like Web 1.0… not quite 2.0

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      Beat Bucher
      Business Analyst, Dynamics GP MVP
      Ultra-Electronics Forensic Technology Inc.
      Montreal QC/Canada
      +1-514-489-4267
      @GP_Beat http://dyngpbeat.wordpress.com/
      Montreal QC GPUG Chapter Leader
      GP2013R2 / MR2012 CU14
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    • Ora Goldman

      Member

      February 6, 2017 at 2:33 PM

      Hello Ian, Rob, David and Beat,

       

      Two things to clarify. 

       

      First, to clarify our commitment, Mekorma is committed to a web client compliant version of Mekorma MICR. We have one in beta for 2013 which is being used by a client today. Between the time that we were going to release that and the time that Microsoft released the html web client we had significant changes in our product, most notable of which is that we now keep all MICR check formats encrypted directly in the SQL database rather than on a local hard disk. We needed to do this to improve the web client experience, but at the same time introduced additional factors requiring further changes before we could release.

       

      Second, to clarify our delay. In response to market demands, we are taking the AP payment process to a whole new level. We have been working on an exciting new capability for over a year. If you are interested, it is called Multi-Batch Management which allows you to manage your payment process from 1 window–across checkbooks and companies—with few button clicks. See this 90 second intro video or this 13 min training video.

       

      We plan to resume our work on the web client version this summer and have it out in the second half of 2017. If there is anything we can do to assist you in using our product in the meanwhile, please let us know.

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      Ora Goldman
      CEO
      Mekorma
      Boulder CO
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    • Beat Bucher

      Member

      February 7, 2017 at 12:05 PM

      Thanks Ora for clarifying the position of Mekorma related to the Web client.

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      Beat Bucher
      Business Analyst, Dynamics GP MVP
      Ultra-Electronics Forensic Technology Inc.
      Montreal QC/Canada
      +1-514-489-4267
      @GP_Beat http://dyngpbeat.wordpress.com/
      Montreal QC GPUG Chapter Leader
      GP2013R2 / MR2012 CU14
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    • Beat Bucher

      Member

      February 7, 2017 at 12:13 PM

      Rob,
      No I have not played with Dynamics 365 yet, only watched a few training videos..
      I was simply comparing the original Web client based on SilverLight to the HTML5 version.. and yes I understand that it’s a challenge for an application that wasn’t built for the web and thus cannot be compared (even far ) to web 1.0..
      I think that Microsoft did the Web Client move just to get rid of the Business Portal  which was based on SharePoint and required a lot of setup from the customers, and had it’s own quirks as well.. Far from perfect, but it did the job and still runs as a good ‘oldtimer’..
      The SilverLight client was an attempt to build a ‘quick-fix’ to the web option by using the traditional Dexterity code translated on the fly to render in a browser, but that turned out to be too buggy and not supporting some of the 3rd party products. The new approach seems to be different, but IMO, rather a step backwards from the usability point.
      I don’t have a crystal bal, nor am I in Microsoft’s secret books to know what’s coming on the future, but with all the focus placed on D365, I feel that the web client wont get much of resources for the coming years.
      Replacing BP by a 3rd party product has already been on our option list, since we’ll have no choice than being forced to upgrade pas 2018 when GP2013R2 will go out of maintenance..
      Let’s see how bright the future will be for the GP Web client..

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      Beat Bucher
      Business Analyst, Dynamics GP MVP
      Ultra-Electronics Forensic Technology Inc.
      Montreal QC/Canada
      +1-514-489-4267
      @GP_Beat http://dyngpbeat.wordpress.com/
      Montreal QC GPUG Chapter Leader
      GP2013R2 / MR2012 CU14
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    • Jeffery Southworth

      Member

      February 8, 2017 at 9:58 AM

      Hi Beat,

      Have you taken the time to enumerate the various aspects of the Dynamics GP HTML 5 web client that you find objectionable? If so, please direct me to that post.

      Thanks,
      Jeff

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      Jeffery Southworth
      Director, Product Development
      PureLogic Incorporated
      Dallas TX
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